Olivia and the Logan is a spoof of Lady and the Tramp (1955).


  • Jim Dear - Fred Flintstone (from: The Flintstones (1960))
  • Darling - Wilma Flintstone (from: The Flintstones (1960))
  • Puppy Lady as Herself
  • Lady - Olivia Flaversham (from: The Great Mouse Detective (1986))
  • Jock - Baloo (from: The Jungle Book (1967, since 1964) and The Jungle Book 2 (2003))
  • Trusty - Bagheera (from: The Jungle Book (1967, since 1964) and The Jungle Book 2 (2003))
  • Tramp - Logan Bishop (from: The Great Mouse Detective (1986)) (OC)
  • Aunt Sarah - Cruella De Vil (from: 101 Dalmatians (1961, after Walt Disney's death in 1960) and 101 Dalmatians II: Patch's London Adventure (2003))
  • Newborn Jim, Jr. as Himself
  • Jim, Jr. - Michael Darling (from: Peter Pan (1953))
  • Si - Kaa (from: The Jungle Book (1967, since 1964))
  • Am - Sir Hiss (from: Robin Hood (1973))
  • Policeman - Gruffi Gummi (from: Adventures of the Gummi Bears (1985-1990))
  • Professor - Zummi Gummi (from: Adventures of the Gummi Bears (1985-1990))
  • Al the Alligator - Cookie Monster (from: Sesame Street (1969, since 1968))
  • Hyena - Chip and Dale (from: Walt Disney (since 1928))
  • Mr. Busy - Gopher (from: Winnie the Pooh (since 1960, before Walt Disney's death))
  • Tony - Chef Pisghetti (from: Curious George (2006-2015))
  • Joe as Himself
  • Bull - Yogi Bear (from: The Yogi Bear Show (1960))
  • Peg - Sawyer (from: Cats Don't Dance (1997))
  • Annette, Collette and Danielle as Themselves
  • Puppy Scamp as Himself
  • Dogcatcher - Edgar Balthazar (from: The AristoCats (1970))
  • Rat - Fidget (from: The Great Mouse Detective (1986))
  • Chickens - various robots

In the Trailer:Edit

  • Scamp - Patch (from: 101 Dalmatians (1961, after Walt Disney's death in 1960) and 101 Dalmatians II: Patch's London Adventure (2003))
  • Angel - Penny (from: 101 Dalmatians (1961, after Walt Disney's death in 1960) and 101 Dalmatians II: Patch's London Adventure (2003))

In Journey to Dexter: Dancing Land:Edit

  • Big Bird - Wreck-It Ralph (from: Wreck-It Ralph (2012))
  • Ernie - Dexter (from: Dexter's Laboratory (1995))
  • 1st Head of 2-Headed Monster - Woody (from: Toy Story (1995))
  • 2nd Head of 2-Headed Monster - Buzz Lightyear (from: Toy Story (1995))


  1. Cast Video
  2. "Peace on Earth"/Lady
  3. Lady to Bed
  4. Sunday/Fidget the Bat/Morning Paper
  5. Olivia Talks to Baloo and Bagheera
  6. 'What a Day'/Breakfast at Chef Pisghetti's
  7. Warning/Breakout/Snob Hill
  8. 'A Wee Bairn'/Logan Meets Olivia
  9. Countdown to B-Day
  10. "What is Michael Darling?"/"La La Lu"
  11. Going Away/Aunt Cruella De Vil
  12. "The Siamese Snake Song"
  13. The Cuffs/Olivia Runs Off/Wrong Side of the Tracks
  14. Through the Zoo
  15. A Busy Gopher/A Log Puller
  16. Footloose and Collar-Free/"Bella Notte"
  17. Journey to Dexter: Dancing Land
  18. The Next Morning/Chasing Robots/Caught
  19. The Pound/"He's A Logan"
  20. Baloo and Bagheera's Proposal/Olivia's Shame
  21. The Bat Returns/Logan vs. Fidget/Falsely Accused
  22. Bagheera on the Trail
  23. Visitors/Domestic Life
  24. End Credits
  25. Olivia and the Logan II: Patch's Adventure Trailer


[First lines]
Fred Flintstone/Jim Dear: [giving Wilma/Darling a hatbox] It's for you, Darling. Merry Christmas.
Wilma Flintstone/Darling: Oh, Jim Dear. It's the one I was admiring, isn't it? Trimmed with ribbons?
Fred/Jim Dear: Well, it has a ribbon.
[The box is opened; inside is a cocker spaniel puppy wearing a ribbon]
Wilma/Darling: Oh, how sweet. [the puppy smiles after what Darling said]
Fred/Jim Dear: You like her, Darling?
Wilma/Darling: [hugging the puppy] Oh, I love her. What a perfectly beautiful little Lady.

Baloo/Jock: [to Olivia/Lady] Uh, please, lassie, uh, we've come with a-a proposition for helping you.
Olivia Flaversham/Lady: Help me? What do you mean?
Baloo/Jock: Now, uh, you see, lassie, neither of us is as young as we used to be.
Bagheera/Trusty: But we're still in the prime of life.
Baloo/Jock: Aye, and we've both got very comfortable homes.
Bagheera/Trusty: That's right. Where we know you'll be welcome and appreciated, Miss Lady.
Baloo/Jock: So, s-so to come directly to the point-
Bagheera/Trusty: If you could, uh, find it possible to, uh, to, uh, to, uh-
Olivia/Lady: You're both very kind, and I do appreciate it, but-
Logan Bishop/Tramp: [he arrives with a piece of cheddar cheese, as he searches for Olivia/Lady] Oh, Pigeon! Oh, Pige- [to Baloo/Jock and Bagheera/Trusty] Oh! Hi, boys. Anything new in the kennel club set? [to Olivia/Lady] Little something I picked up for ya, Pige. [Olivia/Lady, Baloo/Jock, and Bagheera/Trusty angrily turn their backs on him]
Olivia/Lady: Hmph!
Logan/Tramp: Looks like I'm the one that's in the doghouse.
Bagheera/Trusty: [to Olivia/Lady] If this person is annoyin' you, Miss Lady-
Baloo/Jock: [to Olivia/Lady] We'll gladly throw the rascal out!
Olivia/Lady: That won't be necessary. Thank you.
Bagheera/Trusty: Very well, ma'am.
Baloo/Jock: [to Logan/Tramp] You, you MONGREL!!!
[Baloo/Jock and Bagheera/Trusty both leave Olivia/Lady and Logan/Tramp, and walk out]
Logan/Tramp: [to Olivia/Lady] Aw, come on, Pige. I-It wasn't my fault.
Olivia/Lady: Hmph!
Logan/Tramp: I thought you were right behind me. Honest!
Olivia/Lady: Hmph!
Logan/Tramp: When I heard they'd taken you to the pound, I...
Olivia/Lady: Oh! Don't even mention that horrible place. I was so embarrassed and, and frightened. [starts sighing angrily]
Logan/Tramp: Oh, now, now, now. Who could ever harm a cute little trick like you?
Olivia/Lady: Trick? Trick! That reminds me.
Olivia/Lady: Who is Trixie?
Logan/Tramp: Trixie?
Olivia/Lady: And Lulu? And Fifi? And Rosita Chiquita w-w-whatever her name is?
Logan/Tramp: Ch-Chiquita...Chiquita? Oh...Oh! Yes! Well, I-I-I can explain...
Olivia/Lady: As far as I'm concerned, you needn't worry about your old heel.
Logan/Tramp: M-M-My heel?
Olivia/Lady: I don't need you to shelter and protect me.
Logan/Tramp: Yes, b-but, but, but...
Olivia/Lady: If you grow careless, don't blame me. And I don't care if the Cossacks do pick you up. Goodbye! And take this with you! [tosses back the cheese Logan/Tramp gave her. He sadly leaves as Olivia/Lady goes into the doghouse sighing angrily; as Logan/Tramp exits the yard, Fidget/the rat Olivia/Lady chased earlier comes out from behind a fence and sneaks into the yard. Olivia/Lady hears Fidget/the rat and lunges at it, squeaking and snarling. Fidget/the rat flies the tree, onto the house; Logan/Tramp hears her meowing and senses trouble. Olivia/Lady's squeaking gets Cruella/Aunt Sarah's attention; she turns on the light, scaring Fidget/the rat]
Cruella De Vil/Aunt Sarah: [after opening the window] Stop that! Hush, now. Hush! [Olivia/Lady continues squeaking as Fidget/the rat goes through the open window into the nursery] Stop that racket! [she closes the window and turns off the light]
Logan/Tramp: [just returning to the backyard] What's wrong, Pige?
Olivia/Lady: A [bat]!
Logan/Tramp: [shocked] Where?
Olivia/Lady: Upstairs, in [Michael's] room.
Logan/Tramp: How do I get in?
Olivia/Lady: The little door, on the porch. [Logan/Tramp doesn't hesitate to run up the steps, through the dog door, and into the house. He goes upstairs, sniffs at the bedroom door, and then proceeds to the nursery's open door: He immediately sees Fidget/the rat in a corner and snarls at it; Fidget/the rat glares at Logan/Tramp with a hiss. Logan/Tramp approaches the rat with a snarl, and then chases it around the room; outside, Olivia/Lady breaks her chain and hurries to help him. Logan/Tramp defeats Fidget/the rat, knocking over the crib, and ultimately kills it; the sound of the chaos awakens Cruella/Aunt Sarah]
Cruella/Aunt Sarah: [entering the nursery] Merciful heavens! Oh, you poor little darling. Oh, no, no, no. Thank goodness you're not hurt, you... [sees Olivia/Lady and Logan/Tramp and becomes convinced they did it] You vicious brute! [swings a broom at them, Olivia/Lady dodges as Logan/Tramp backs away into a broom closet] Back, get back! Go, go on! Get back! [she closes the closet door and puts a chair in front of it] The pound. The pound, that's it. I'll call the pound. [Olivia/Lady attempts to show Cruella/Aunt Sarah the dead Fidget/rat and clear up the misunderstanding, but Cruella/Aunt Sarah grabs her chain before she can and roughly drags her out of the room] Come here. Come here! [pulls Olivia/Lady downstairs] Come on. Come on! Come along. Come along this minute. Stay away from that brute in the house. [puts Olivia/Lady in the basement and locks the door before going to the phone; Olivia/Lady attempts to escape, to no avail] Hello? Hello! I don't care if you are a lonely young man. I insist that you pick him up immediately!

Fred/Jim Dear: [he and Wilma/Darling're just arriving and see Edgar/the Dog Catcher's wagon in front of their house] Darling, look.
Cruella/Aunt Sarah: [to Edgar/the Dog Catcher] And if you want my advice, you'll destroy that animal at once.
Edgar Balthazar/Dog Catcher: [walking Logan/Tramp to his wagon] Don't worry, Ma'am. We've been after this one for months. We'll take care of him.
Wilma/Darling: [as Baloo/Jock and Bagheera/Trusty watch Logan/Tramp being loaded onto the wagon] What do you suppose...?
Fred/Jim Dear: Say, what's going on here?
Edgar/Dog Catcher: Just picking up a stray, mister. Come on, giddyup! Reported attacking [Michael].
Fred/Jim Dear: Good heavens!
Wilma/Darling: [Michael!] [they race for the door]
Fred/Jim Dear: Aunt [Cruella]!
Wilma/Darling: Aunt [Cruella]! Aunt [Cruella]!
Fred/Jim Dear: Aunt [Cruella]!
Wilma/Darling: Aunt [Cruella]! [they enter the house]
Baloo/Jock: I was certain he was no good the moment I first laid eyes on him.
Bagheera/Trusty: [he and Baloo/Jock walk up to the door to find out what's going on] Yeah, but, uh... I never thought he'd do a thing like that.
Cruella/Aunt Sarah: [Olivia/Lady, still locked in the basement, overhears Fred/Jim Dear and Wilma/Darling talking to Cruella/Aunt Sarah and gets excited] Thank goodness I got there in time. There they were, crib overturned--
Fred/Jim Dear: Oh, I'm sure there must be some mistake. I know they wouldn't... [opens the basement door and lets Olivia/Lady out]
Cruella/Aunt Sarah: Watch out. That [mouse's] loose. Keep her away!
Fred/Jim Dear: Nonsense, she's trying to tell us something. [follows Olivia/Lady into the nursery] What is it, old girl? What're you trying...? [he pulls back the curtain and finds the dead Fidget/rat] Darling, Aunt Sarah, come here!
Wilma/Darling: What is it, Jim?
Cruella/Aunt Sarah: [sees Fidget/the rat and screams] A [bat]!
Bagheera/Trusty: [he and Berlioz/Jock're listening from the front door] A [bat]? We should've known.
Baloo/Jock: [now feeling guilty] I misjudged him... badly.
Bagheera/Trusty: Come on. We've got to stop that wagon.
Baloo/Jock: [hurrying after Bagheera/Trusty] But mon, we don't know which way they've gone.
Bagheera/Trusty: We'll track 'em down.
Baloo/Jock: And then?
Bagheera/Trusty: We hold 'em, hold 'em at bay. [they race through the streets; Bagheera/Trusty stops and begins sniffing around]
Baloo/Jock: Now what?
Bagheera/Trusty: The scent. Follow the scent.
Baloo/Jock: [exasperated] Ugh, let's face it, mon. We both know you've lost your sense of smell. [Bagheera/Trusty glares at Baloo/Jock and sniffs at him, and continues sniffing around, and howls as soon as he realizes they're on the right track; the wagon is just a few yards away from the pound; Logan/Tramp hears Bagheera/Trusty howling, and looks out to see him and Baloo/Jock hurrying to the rescue. They get alongside the horses and roar at them]
Edgar/Dog Catcher: [annoyed] Go on, get out of here! Go on, you, get away! [the startled horses whinny] Take it easy. Go on, you, get away! Go on, get away! Watch it now. Watch it, watch it! [The wagon tips over. Fred/Jim Dear, Wilma/Darling, Cruella/Aunt Sarah, and Olivia/Lady drive up to the scene; the three adults approach Edgar/the Dog Catcher and explain the whole thing earlier was a misunderstanding as Olivia/Lady approaches Logan/Tramp]
Logan/Tramp: [relieved that Olivia/Lady came to save him] Hi, Pige.

Kaa/Si and Sir Hiss/Am: [singing] We are Siamese, if you please! We are Siamese if you don't please!

Baloo/Jock: Lassie! Lassie!
Bagheera/Trusty: Oh, Miss Lady, ma'am! Miss Lady!
Baloo/Jock: Ah, good mornin', lassie. 'Tis a bonny, braw, bright day, uh, today.
Bagheera/Trusty: Why, Miss Lady, is, uh, somethin' wrong?
Baloo/Jock: Aye, tell us, lassie. If somebody's been mistreatin' ya-
Olivia/Lady: Oh, no, Jock. It's something I've done, I guess.
Baloo/Jock: You?
Olivia/Lady: It must be. Jim Dear and Darling are acting so-
Bagheera/Trusty: [to Olivia/Lady] Jim Dear and Darling?
Baloo/Jock: [to Bagheera/Trusty] Hush, mon! [to Olivia/Lady] Now, lassie, get on with the details.
Olivia/Lady: Well, I first noticed it the other day when Jim Dear came home.

Logan/Tramp: Well, here we are.
Olivia/Lady: The zoo?
Logan/Tramp: Sure! No, no. This way. Follow me.
[Gruffi/the zoo security guard hums an Irish folk song]
Olivia/Lady: Oh!
Logan/Tramp: What's the matter, Pige?
Olivia/Lady: We can't go in.
Logan/Tramp: Why not?
Olivia/Lady: Well, the sign says...
Logan/Tramp: Yeah, well, well, that's... That's the angle.
Olivia/Lady: Angle?
Logan/Tramp: Look, we'll just wait for the right... [Zummi/the professor appears] Uh-oh! Here we are now. Just lay low.
[Logan/the Tramp whistles at Gruffi/the zoo security guard, then squeaks]
Gruffi Gummi/Zoo Security Guard: Hey, you!
Zummi Gummi/Professor: Uh, I beg your pardon? Were you addressing me?
Gruffi/Zoo Security Guard: All right! What's the matter?! [shows Zummi/the professor the "no mice allowed" sign] Can't you read?!
Zummi/Professor: Why, yes. Several languages.
Gruffi/Zoo Security Guard: Oh, a wise guy, eh? [Logan/the Tramp snarls viciously at Gruffi/the zoo security guard] All right, now... [points to Logan/the Tramp] ...what's this creature doing here?
Logan/Tramp: [chews and bites on Gruffi/the zoo security guard's nightstick]
Zummi/Professor: He's not my [mouse]. [Logan/the Tramp jumps into Zummi/the professor's arms]
Gruffi/Zoo Security Guard: Oh, he's not, eh?! [Logan/the Tramp squeaks at Gruffi/the zoo security guard]
Zummi/Professor: Let go! Go away! Go on! Why, certainly not, officer.
Gruffi/Zoo Security Guard: Aye, and I suppose you'll be telling me next that it was the [mouse] that was whistling, eh?!
Zummi/Professor: I-I-I'm certain I don't know.
Gruffi/Zoo Security Guard: Oh, so, I'm a liar now, am I?! [angrily] Well, you listen to me! AHA! Resisting an officer of the law! [Logan/the Tramp tears off the back of Zummi/the professor's suit, in order to provoke him into getting into trouble with Gruffi/the zoo security guard] Oh, you're going to pay! [Logan/the Tramp bites Gruffi/the zoo security guard's buttocks] OW!! Pull a knife on me, would you?! Trying to assassinate me, are you?! Carrying a concealed weapon! [Gruffi/the zoo security guard's and Zummi/the professor's fight makes some nearby elephants, lions, and giraffes think Gruffi/the zoo security guard and Zummi/the professor both have gone crazy, as they watch the fight from their exhibits]
Logan/Tramp: [continues squeaking, then to Olivia/Lady] Come on, Pige. The place is ours. [he enters the zoo with Olivia/Lady, as Gruffi/the zoo security guard and Zummi/the professor continue fighting and arguing]

Logan/Tramp: We better go through this place from A to Z. Apes. No, no, no, no. No use even asking them.
[one of the apes in their cage scratches his head at Olivia/Lady and Logan/Tramp, while the other two both look at the audience]
Logan/Tramp: They wouldn't understand.
Olivia/Lady: They wouldn't?
Logan/Tramp: Uh-uh. Too closely related to humans. Uh-oh! [Cookie monsters]. Now, there's an idea! [to Cookie Monster/the Alligator about the muzzle] Say, [Cookie Monster]? Do you suppose you could nip this contraption off for us?
Cookie Monster/Alligator: Glad to oblige. [Opens his mouth wide to the point where Olivia/Lady's entire head can fit in it]
Logan/Tramp: Whoa! WHOA!!!! [Cookie Monster/The Alligator nearly and accidentally, bites Olivia/Lady's head off, but Oliver/the Tramp saves her at the last second; the elephants and the lions both start trumpeting and roaring in the background, as Chip and Dale/a hyena laughs hysterically in his cage at both Olivia/Lady and Logan/Tramp] Hmph! If anybody ever needed a muzzle, it's him.
Gopher/Beaver: [off-screen] TIMBER!!!!
Logan/Tramp: Hey, Pigeon! Look out! [a tree falls over close to the mice/dogs] Now, what hair-brained idiot would... [notices a gopher/beaver gnawing on the tree] Hey, look! A [gopher]! Here's the answer to our problem!
Gopher/Beaver: [inspects the tree] Let me see here... 6 foot 6 and 7/16 inches.
Logan/Tramp: Uh... Pardon me, friend! I wonder if you'd do us a little...
Gopher/Beaver: Busy, sonny! Busy! Can't stop to gossip now. [tries to push the tree] Gotta slide this sycamore to...the swamp.
Logan/Tramp: Yeah, well, this will only take a second of your time.
Gopher/Beaver: Only a second?! L-Listen! Listen, sonny! Do you realize every second 70 centimeters of water is wasted over that spill-way?! [points to his unfinished dam]
Logan/Tramp: Yeah, but...
Gopher/Beaver: Gotta get this log moving, sonny! Gotta get it moving! T'ain't the cuttin' takes some time! It's the doggone haulin'!
Logan/Tramp: [notices the leash to Olivia/Lady's muzzle and the limb on the tree] The haulin'! Exactly! Now, what you need is a...
Gopher/Beaver: I'd better bisect this section here. [begins gnawing on the log]
Logan/Tramp: What you need is a log puller! [Gopher/the beaver gnaws loudly] I SAID A LOG PULLER!!!!
Gopher/Beaver: I ain't "deaf", sonny. There's no need to... Did you say, "log puller"?!
Logan/Tramp: And by a lucky coincidence, you see before you, modeled by the lovely little lady, the new, improved, patented, handy-dandy, never-failed, little-giant log puller! The Busy [Gopher's] Friend!
Gopher/Beaver: You don't say!
Logan/Tramp: Guaranteed not to wear, tear, rip, or ravel! Turn around, sister, and show the customer the merchandise. And it cuts log-hauling time 66%!
Gopher/Beaver: 66%, eh?! [chuckles] Think of that! Well, how does it work?
Logan/Tramp: Why, it's no work at all. You neatly slip this ring into the limb like this... [slips the leash of Olivia/Lady's muzzle into the limb of the log] and haul it off!
Gopher/Beaver: Say, you mind if I slip it on for size?
Logan/Tramp: Help yourself, friend! Help yourself!
Gopher/Beaver: Okay, don't mind if I do! [pulls on the rope to Olivia/Lady's muzzle] How do you get the "consarned" thing off, sonny?
Logan/Tramp: Glad you brought that up, friend. Glad you brought that up. To remove it, simply place the strap between your teeth.
Gopher/Beaver: Like this? [puts the strap of Olivia/Lady's muzzle between his teeth]
Oliver/Tramp: Correct, friend! Now bite hard! [Gopher/the beaver bites the strap of the muzzle, removing it from Olivia/Lady] You see?
Olivia/Lady: It's off!
Gopher/Beaver: Say, that is simple!
Logan/Tramp: Well, friend, we'll be on our way now, so...
Gopher/Beaver: Uh-uh-uh-uh! Not so fast now, sonny! [puts on the muzzle] I'll have to make certain it's satisfactory before we settle on a price.
Logan/Tramp: Oh, no! It's all yours, friend! You can keep it!
Gopher/Beaver: Uh, I can, huh? I can?!
Olivia/Lady: Uh-huh. It's a free sample. [Logan/Tramp is astonished by this remark]
Gopher/Beaver: Well, thanks a lot! Thanks ever so... [the log rolls down the hill, causing Gopher/the beaver to tumble with it; when the log hits the river, it blocks it completely, completing the dam] Say! It works sweeeeeeell! [water squirts out of Gopher/the beaver's mouth]

Chef Pisghetti/Tony: [to Olivia/Lady and Logan/the Tramp in an Italian accent] Now-a, first-a we fix-a the table-a.
Joe: Here are-a your [cheese]-a, Tony! [comes with a plate of bones]
Pisghetti/Tony: OK-a. [look in confusion then hits the plate of parmesan cheese in the air] [CHEESE]-A?! What's-a the matter-a for-a you-a, Joe?! I [rolls an R] break-a your face-a! Tonight-a, Butch-a, he's-a get-a the best-a in-a the house-a!
Joe: OK, Tony. You the boss-a. [sashays into the kitchen to cook Olivia/Lady and Logan/the Tramp something fancy]

Baloo/Jock: Courage, mon. Courage.
Bagheera/Trusty: But, I-I've never even considered matrimony.
Baloo/Jock: Nor I, but no matter which of us she accepts, we'll always be the best of friends. Now remember, not a word about her unfortunate experience. You don't want to hurt her feelings.
Bagheera/Trusty: Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Baloo/Jock: Lassie.
Bagheera/Trusty: Miss Lady, ma'am.
Olivia/Lady: Please, I don't want to see anybody.
Baloo/Jock: Now, now, lassie. Do not feel that way about it.
Bagheera/Trusty: Of course not, Miss Lady. [unintentionally mocking Olivia/Lady] Why, some of the finest people I ever tracked down were jail birds.
Baloo/Jock: [angrily] QUIET, [Bagheera/Trusty in fright hits his head onto the dog house] you great loony!

Logan/Tramp: [looks into a pet shop window and sees three adorable puppies, sleeping, until one of them walks closer to him] Aw, cute little rascals! [the puppy yaps happily] A-cootchie-cootchie-cootchie-cootchie-coo!

[Last lines]
Bagheera/Trusty: [to Olivia/Lady and Logan/Tramp's puppies] As my grand pappy, Old Reliable, used to say...I don't recollect if I've ever mentioned Old Reliable before.
Annette, Collette, and Danielle: [in unison] No, you haven't, Uncle Trusty.
Bagheera/Trusty: Huh? I haven't? Well, uh, as Old Reliable used to say... He'd say, uh, uh... He'd say, uh, uh... Doggone. You know, I clean forgot what it was he used to say.